tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post315311427613698943..comments2008-10-15T17:47:26.622-07:00Comments on Eliminate Property Taxes!: Indiana's Spending SpreeTimothy Wescohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03710982803295196024noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post-38750401326475304732008-10-15T17:47:00.000-07:002008-10-15T17:47:00.000-07:00As in any previous form of government ever devised...As in any previous form of government ever devised, what initially started as good in theory, has as always been replaced with a form of ruling elite vs. peasant mentality, “let them eat cake,” with greed, avarice, and human nature now morphing what should be for the good for all, into serving only the minute percentage at the top.<BR/>All previous methods of protest now prove ineffective, your vote counts nothing in a world of superdelegates, civil disobedience has no real effect, in reality they in charge are fully equiped to deal with such, and hope it is these tried and true means that are attempted. Business then goes on as usual.<BR/>In Indiana, property taxes and the process itself have gotten out of hand. I proposed an idea, distributed this idea with print, email, with the “pyramid scheme” method of one telling five, exponential distribution. This idea a novel approach, instead of all feeling a total sense of helplessness at facing the government,” We the People” realize the idea that there are thousands of us to each of those in charge, and through exercising of our rights under the law, and applying these rights to procedures, job descriptions, etc. at a rate the system was never designed to handle, we can and will gridlock any governmental agency to an extent to which they cannot over-ride. This idea, again novel in approach, has been overlooked, though simple in idea, it would be an immediate, all-encompassing fix for any governmental stupidty thrown at us, with those now secure in their arrogance, seeing firsthand what we, their bosses, can and will do when pushed past the point of reason. Just as they have warped the ideas of laws conceived to preserve a give and take between goverment and the people, in reaching a solution for the common good of all, and made it into the inevitable we give, they take,and take, it is time we take it all back to where it should be.<BR/>My proposal here is to have each person in Indiana, per county, use the tax appeal process to put the tax system itself out of business, this being one of a myriad of processes at local, state, and federal level, that if exercised by EVERY individual at every instance, would create total chaos and an inability to do for the individual what is required by law for them to do. All using the most protected rights of each individual, all written in the law, all perfectly legal. The processes, applications, settings, offices have been designed to apply bully tactics, to humiliate and intimidate the individual, instill the sense of helplessness, what can one person do against the mighty government. Broken down to individuals, very few at top levels, in small numbers of offices, force conditions on the average citizen we should never have needed to live. It is when the individuals bullied, realize as a whole the bully is powerless against the many united, that eventually the wrong is righted, the bully no longer able to again use the tactics for control.<BR/>My proposal in Indiana is to have all taxpayers file form 130, forcing them to schedule all at a tax appeal board meeting, not possible if at 20-30 minutes per taxpayer, 20000 filing. The first possibility of sucess, not knowing if my ideas were passed on, or others thought it up, but Marion County released re-assesment tax bill a few weeks ago, a first wave of 10000 appeals flooded in, the system is backlogged according to the Indianapolis Star 6-8 years at the previous rate, this in the first 2 days of a 45 day appeal window, they have no idea how to proceed….I really don’t think 10000 came up with that on their own….We will have to see in my home county, and state-wide, how far reaching my paperwork spread, I cannot tell, but at least in Marion County, someone ran with it….<BR/>This was my first plan, it actually needing a large percentage of citizens to agree and act, there too being the possibility of individually “facing the enemy” should they try to process as usual, many truly fearful of then being placed on the proverbial “list” for payback in the future, many buying into the fears manufactured by the government.<BR/>Once freed of the previous limitations of protest, my idea in reality not being a protest but individuals taking advantage of their rights as Americans, with the realization by all that those against whom we wish to address issues no longer having a say in the proceedings, that their own rules of ways to question their authority no longer have any merit, that we the people can and will at every instance of tyranny, ineptitude, greed, arrogance, can and will from this point on, take their working environment out at a moment’s notice, and will only grant a repreive when apologies have been given, processes begun to right the wrongs, and promised made to get back to the ideals the founding fathers dreamed possible, when bullied by the same governmental interference those in power have returned this very nation back to. We all do understand the need of taxation and services, it it the pork and bloat that has to go, the illegal and illogical….<BR/>The distillation of our rights under the law, their job descriptions, methods, office procedures, all distilled down to the ” least common denominator,” allows even simpler examples, involving smaller percentages, with greater immediate impact.<BR/>One example, our right to receive information from any public servant, at any level, any time, as many times as needed, whether the question be good or bad, relevent or irrelevent, to the citizen it is important, those in government when hired are more than versed in the idea that ” no question is a stupid question,” , it is in their job descriptions. From the office procedure arena, we distill down to that item that no governmental agency in the modern era can function without, the phone system, and then combine the two, at a rate again it is not possible to deal with. Small cards, as per wallet-sized sports schedules, with all pertinent county, state, federal numbers on each. All required to answer anything “We the People” wish to ask, we each having a combination of a cell phone, 3 minutes per day, once a day to run the list, and in the very small chance of getting through, ask away. Any legitimate business now needing to be done by mail, or at the office windows in person, total meltdown of any agency or office making that weeks or months list.( A website needed to address each week/month’s “hit list’”) A one week initial period to show what can be permanent, a statement sent of a 3 month reprieve to start the repairs and changes necessary to eliminate ALL the waste in EVERY office and division, and the promise that if none noted or initiated, a one month then 6 month meltdown, etc., until permanent silence is given. This once again, all perfectly legal, within the scope of what they are required to do, BY LAW, it having no fix on their side, other than doing as is required, we doing as stated, and living up to our guidelines and timelines. Or any other action deemed effective, I am trying to plant the seed, others can most probably fine tune as needed….<BR/>Again, this one of an infinite number of legal actions we can and will apply, with no need for input or rebuttal by them in any way, shape or form. Any manipulation of our rights, forces immediate lawsuit, bankruptcy by attorney actions, their is no answer to the public exercising their rights, we are doing nothing illegal.<BR/>Run this by anyone you speak with, have them judge themselves that with ALL seeing the ease of this approach, the immediacy of those we vote in seeing our response to the idiocy we live with daily, that this is truly an immediate solution to begin correction by those stepping outside the Constitution, in piling the Trillions on even future generations, that it will work,then view the immediate smile by all that “we don’t have to take it any more.” Someone with your connections and stature is needed, with the means to disemminate these ideas, or other ideas using the same basis, I am a small fish in a small pond, but try my best….Any feedback , positive or negative, would be appreciated, I have attempted to write some, but have no idea where to start, or if I am too idealistic in thinking this easy of process and idea might be the solution we all have missed….. I appreciate any time given reading this…Thanks muchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post-6612349383801105412008-09-03T11:23:00.000-07:002008-09-03T11:23:00.000-07:00Can you add the Team Hammond Taxpayer's Group webs...Can you add the Team Hammond Taxpayer's Group website to your list of Hoosier websites? It is www.teamhammondtaxpayersgroup.org.<BR/><BR/>Thanks. We like your blog. Keep up the good work.Team Hammondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post-87459369018782461262008-08-26T09:41:00.000-07:002008-08-26T09:41:00.000-07:00Tim, It's Melyssa from Hoosiers for Fair Taxation....Tim, It's Melyssa from Hoosiers for Fair Taxation. I need to talk with you and give your information about the summer study session for repeal. Can you give me a call or email me soon? <BR/><BR/>317-938-8913<BR/><BR/>P.s. You are doing a terrific job on this blog. Thanks so much for keeping up on the issues.HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post-58281604313765024202008-06-30T10:01:00.000-07:002008-06-30T10:01:00.000-07:00While the total amount paid by everyone collective...While the total amount paid by everyone collectively remains the same, it is the apportionment that matters. Those who spend more money on taxable goods and services, in the case of a sales tax increase, will bear a larger portion of the burden. If the income tax is increased, those with more taxable income will pay more. In either case, those who have more money will pay more and those with less money will pay less.<BR/><BR/>Local governments will also be forced to be more disciplined in their spending because they will no longer be able to dip directly into the pockets of residents for the money. They will have to get the money through the state and if the state doesn't collect enough money to finance what the local governments want, they have to learn to do without.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post-66396121696497014832008-02-20T15:45:00.000-08:002008-02-20T15:45:00.000-08:00Here is Indiana's current “tax cut” plan:•Reduce t...Here is Indiana's current “tax cut” plan:<BR/><BR/>•Reduce the increase in tax deductible property taxes and shift the entire tax burden to non-deductible sales taxes.<BR/><BR/>•Increase the local income tax<BR/><BR/>•Reduces no government spending<BR/><BR/>•Result: NET TAX INCREASE<BR/><BR/>The bipartisan government-reform panel led by Indiana Supreme Court Chief Justice Randall Shepard and former Gov. Joe Kernan recommend the elimination of 1,155 units of government and 5,833 fewer elected officials statewide saving $400 million each year. <BR/> <BR/>We've got to quit governing like this!<BR/><BR/>Message from former Governor Joe Kernan:<BR/>http://www.indianachamber.com/<BR/><BR/>BSU Study: Kernan-Shepard Recommendations Give Big Savings EACH Year<BR/>http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?id=27617Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102991104925557412.post-58800165621414645672008-01-23T00:03:00.000-08:002008-01-23T00:03:00.000-08:00I like this blog is fantastic, is really good wri...I like this blog is fantastic, is really good written. Congratulation. Do you want to see something more? 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